maag
06-07 01:57 PM
It is easier said than done. When you are entering you are at the discretion of IO and you do not know all the laws. In this particular case, the people tried to convince IO that they were planning to let canada PR go once they receive US GC but the IO was determined to revoke their AOS. So there is nothing really you can do at that point in time.
I agree, I can't put everything on stake to get canadian PR which I am not sure if I will use later or not.
I agree, I can't put everything on stake to get canadian PR which I am not sure if I will use later or not.
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anzerraja
07-20 12:18 AM
Thanks !
I pledge $100 for this cause also.
Would also like to thank Gopal (gsc999) for getting all the banners done and helping a lot in organizing the SJ rally.Kudos to all Noble souls in the IV Core. I think what IV has acheived is amazing and unprecedented. Also money is too small to repay all the hours and work you guys have put in.
I am sure God will bless all of you with a timely GC :). Best Wishes again.
I pledge $100 for this cause also.
Would also like to thank Gopal (gsc999) for getting all the banners done and helping a lot in organizing the SJ rally.Kudos to all Noble souls in the IV Core. I think what IV has acheived is amazing and unprecedented. Also money is too small to repay all the hours and work you guys have put in.
I am sure God will bless all of you with a timely GC :). Best Wishes again.
eb3_nepa
12-11 07:29 PM
Totally agreed that quota increase is controversial and an alternative approach must be agreed upon - 1932, CIR and now SKIL has taught us that bitter lesson. I am not by any means questioning the wisdom of going after the low-hanging fruits like 485 filing etc. All I am saying is - we cannot assume everything else remains the same. Things like 485 filing etc are our niche goals - no corporate interest is served by that and in a brutally capitalistic country thats a huge disadvantage.The fact is ANY relief, whether it includes quota increase or not, still takes a lot of lobbying and money to introduce all on its own strength.Yours and mine promotion/career prospects are the least of the lawmakers' worries, however non-controversial it may be and however deserving we may be. The need of the hour is to increase our membership base and contributions - lets face it, 200k in funds is not going to get us too far on our own steam. If 6000 of us could achieve so much in an year, imagine what 100k will do. That way we will be a credible enough force to be heard and respected. It still beats me how we have only 6000 odd members despite the dire situation that the majority of EB applicants find themselves in since 2001.
Dixie, I am not denying that lobbying takes effort time and money. So far however we HAVE convinced the lawmakers about our plight. All I am saying is, we should ask for provisions that our anti-immigrant friends will possibly not object strongly to. It is not simply a matter of promotions and career advancement anymore. It is the fact that our lives are tied to one job and that God forbid should something happen to that job we are outta here. The IV core team already has points about the same and have been meeting lawmakers regularly. My point here is that maybe it is time to take a little step back and realize that at this stage just having yearly EADs is SO MUCH of a blessing for both the individual AND the spouse (if applicable). Like someone on here mentioned, IV was formed because of Retrogression NOT because of GC delays.
Dixie, I am not denying that lobbying takes effort time and money. So far however we HAVE convinced the lawmakers about our plight. All I am saying is, we should ask for provisions that our anti-immigrant friends will possibly not object strongly to. It is not simply a matter of promotions and career advancement anymore. It is the fact that our lives are tied to one job and that God forbid should something happen to that job we are outta here. The IV core team already has points about the same and have been meeting lawmakers regularly. My point here is that maybe it is time to take a little step back and realize that at this stage just having yearly EADs is SO MUCH of a blessing for both the individual AND the spouse (if applicable). Like someone on here mentioned, IV was formed because of Retrogression NOT because of GC delays.
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GCard_Dream
12-11 11:54 AM
Can't agree with you more. Since 9 or so mandatory spending bills are pending for 110th congress and it will be the first order of business when congress opens in January, including minor provisions like these, which doesn't require any visa increase, should be considered as a possibility and pursued. If we just want to hit jackpot, it may not be happening anytime soon.
Well said actually!
From the past couple of years and efforts it is VERY clear that any kind of Quota Increase is a BIG no no with the Anti-immigrants. This now divides the IV users into 3 groups
1) This group has already applied for the I-485 a Long time ago but has not seen their GC in the mail yet.
2) This group has not been able to file for I-485 coz of retrogression.
3) This group is stuck in Labour Certification stage and cant do anything about it.
How about for starters if we try and alleviate the pain of people in groups 2 and 3, i.e. ask for people to be able to apply for stage 3 (and ead etc) without the PD mess. For the labour people we ask for a similar benefit. As for group one, well i know that you guys do not benefit under this, but consider this, you are already in a much better situation than the rest of 2 groups. I know you have to go for fingerprinting etc and renew the EAD every year, but consider this: People stuck in LC and stage 2 have to spend much more on renewing H1/H4s coz of lawyer fees. Maybe, if we reduced our demands to asking for 3 things
a) Filing for stage 3 regardless of PD
b) Relief for people in the LC mess
c) Fingerprinting one person just Once (i mean fingerprints dont change do they?)
This might go under the radar as no quota increase is being asked for. I know this point has been discussed ad-infinitum before and we concluded that no more band-aids for the immigration process, let us get a permanent solution. Well permanent solutions take their time, especially with a Much more powerful lobby opposing those changes. For all we know this permanent solution may NEVER go through. Lets face the facts here:
1) The big corps are pushing ONLY for H1B increase.
2) Anti-immigrants are opposed to ANY kind of increase in numbers.
3) Currently the political climate is such that it is either, deal with legals AND illegals or nothing at all.
4) Currently FAR bigger problems stand in front of the lawmakers such as the war, stem cell, abortion etc etc etc.
5) Currently the average American is OPPOSED to even legal immigrants for fear of losing their jobs to them.
In light of all this, does it make sense to go for a Comprehensive Permanent solution or does it make sense to ask for smaller tid-bits and treat the other costs we incur as "costs of doing business"? I mean atleast if the husband and wife Both have H1bs and jobs, you will still be making a ton of money. U use things like approved I-140s to switch jobs with 3 year extensions or u use the EADs. Let us seriously think about this solution.
Well said actually!
From the past couple of years and efforts it is VERY clear that any kind of Quota Increase is a BIG no no with the Anti-immigrants. This now divides the IV users into 3 groups
1) This group has already applied for the I-485 a Long time ago but has not seen their GC in the mail yet.
2) This group has not been able to file for I-485 coz of retrogression.
3) This group is stuck in Labour Certification stage and cant do anything about it.
How about for starters if we try and alleviate the pain of people in groups 2 and 3, i.e. ask for people to be able to apply for stage 3 (and ead etc) without the PD mess. For the labour people we ask for a similar benefit. As for group one, well i know that you guys do not benefit under this, but consider this, you are already in a much better situation than the rest of 2 groups. I know you have to go for fingerprinting etc and renew the EAD every year, but consider this: People stuck in LC and stage 2 have to spend much more on renewing H1/H4s coz of lawyer fees. Maybe, if we reduced our demands to asking for 3 things
a) Filing for stage 3 regardless of PD
b) Relief for people in the LC mess
c) Fingerprinting one person just Once (i mean fingerprints dont change do they?)
This might go under the radar as no quota increase is being asked for. I know this point has been discussed ad-infinitum before and we concluded that no more band-aids for the immigration process, let us get a permanent solution. Well permanent solutions take their time, especially with a Much more powerful lobby opposing those changes. For all we know this permanent solution may NEVER go through. Lets face the facts here:
1) The big corps are pushing ONLY for H1B increase.
2) Anti-immigrants are opposed to ANY kind of increase in numbers.
3) Currently the political climate is such that it is either, deal with legals AND illegals or nothing at all.
4) Currently FAR bigger problems stand in front of the lawmakers such as the war, stem cell, abortion etc etc etc.
5) Currently the average American is OPPOSED to even legal immigrants for fear of losing their jobs to them.
In light of all this, does it make sense to go for a Comprehensive Permanent solution or does it make sense to ask for smaller tid-bits and treat the other costs we incur as "costs of doing business"? I mean atleast if the husband and wife Both have H1bs and jobs, you will still be making a ton of money. U use things like approved I-140s to switch jobs with 3 year extensions or u use the EADs. Let us seriously think about this solution.
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desi3933
06-28 10:58 AM
On a practical note, if the company has sponsored H1Bs in the past, what justification can the company give for not filing another H1B ?
Many reasons. Pick any one of you choice.
1. Employer does not want file H-1B this year at all.
2. Employer already has 15% workforce on H-1B and does not want to become H-1B dependent employer.
3. This job is permanent and H-1B can be filed only for temporary jobs.
H-1B Specialty (Professional) Workers (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/h-1b.cfm) The H-1B program allows an employer to temporarily employ a foreign worker in the U.S. on a nonimmigrant basis in a specialty occupation or as a fashion model of distinguished merit and ability.
4. H-1B quota is over (if applicable) and employee is on F1 OPT.
5. In past, many H1-B has been rejected by USCIS for this job position.
6. The job does not qualify as specialty occupation under H-1B
All of these reasons are valid legal reasons. One more time, valid legal reasons.
Practically there are many ways a company can avoid hiring an H1B or GC if they want to. But the point is, as per law that is illegal.
Are you suggesting the employer is required, by law, to file for H-1B sponsorship for the job applicant?
Avoiding H-1B applicant is legal, whereas avoiding GC/EAD/OPT applicant isn't.
For argument sake, assuming if H-1B applicant can force employer to file H-1B and he/she was not picked because of his/her H-1B visa status, he/she has legal route of filing case against that employer. In this was true, there will be many attorneys eager to file such cases. But, alas, there is not even one such case.
Employer has choice of
1. Filing or not filing H-1B
2. Filing or not filing green card for the employee.
These are employer's choices. Legal choices.
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
Many reasons. Pick any one of you choice.
1. Employer does not want file H-1B this year at all.
2. Employer already has 15% workforce on H-1B and does not want to become H-1B dependent employer.
3. This job is permanent and H-1B can be filed only for temporary jobs.
H-1B Specialty (Professional) Workers (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/h-1b.cfm) The H-1B program allows an employer to temporarily employ a foreign worker in the U.S. on a nonimmigrant basis in a specialty occupation or as a fashion model of distinguished merit and ability.
4. H-1B quota is over (if applicable) and employee is on F1 OPT.
5. In past, many H1-B has been rejected by USCIS for this job position.
6. The job does not qualify as specialty occupation under H-1B
All of these reasons are valid legal reasons. One more time, valid legal reasons.
Practically there are many ways a company can avoid hiring an H1B or GC if they want to. But the point is, as per law that is illegal.
Are you suggesting the employer is required, by law, to file for H-1B sponsorship for the job applicant?
Avoiding H-1B applicant is legal, whereas avoiding GC/EAD/OPT applicant isn't.
For argument sake, assuming if H-1B applicant can force employer to file H-1B and he/she was not picked because of his/her H-1B visa status, he/she has legal route of filing case against that employer. In this was true, there will be many attorneys eager to file such cases. But, alas, there is not even one such case.
Employer has choice of
1. Filing or not filing H-1B
2. Filing or not filing green card for the employee.
These are employer's choices. Legal choices.
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
WaitingYaar
02-07 11:21 AM
If you use AP you enter the US as a "parolee". (Is that how you spell it?).
If you use AVR I believe you enter as an H1B. I would prefer to enter as an H1B
since I have not yet used my EAD or AC21.
To clarify - are you suggesting that it is advisable to use AVR if you have both AP and AVR, and you have not used EAD or AC21 so far. Also, my spouse and myself could be returning at different times in to the country from Canada. Does this change the preference of using either AVR or AP. Since I am the primary applicant but of course we plan to land together.
If you use AVR I believe you enter as an H1B. I would prefer to enter as an H1B
since I have not yet used my EAD or AC21.
To clarify - are you suggesting that it is advisable to use AVR if you have both AP and AVR, and you have not used EAD or AC21 so far. Also, my spouse and myself could be returning at different times in to the country from Canada. Does this change the preference of using either AVR or AP. Since I am the primary applicant but of course we plan to land together.
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RajForGC
06-07 11:05 AM
My frined got receipt from TSC yesterday, his attorney sent package them on 31st , I think they got it on June 1st. He has not got finger printing notice yet.
I applied on May 18th 140/485 Nebraska, Got receipt on May 28 from TSC with finger printing schedule after 2 weeks. 140 got approved on 23rd May.
Friends, My friends is saying if the New bill approves then we might have to re-apply again, even wealready have applied 485, is this True? I am bit confuse, I aksed to my Lawyer he said your Labor and 140 is New , he cannot tell anything at this point. If the person is already applied and waiting for Card should be effected, any opinion?
Thanks
I applied on May 18th 140/485 Nebraska, Got receipt on May 28 from TSC with finger printing schedule after 2 weeks. 140 got approved on 23rd May.
Friends, My friends is saying if the New bill approves then we might have to re-apply again, even wealready have applied 485, is this True? I am bit confuse, I aksed to my Lawyer he said your Labor and 140 is New , he cannot tell anything at this point. If the person is already applied and waiting for Card should be effected, any opinion?
Thanks
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I think its important to mention this is a protest of the actions done by them, otherwise the morons might think we are appreciating their work..
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I think its important to mention this is a protest of the actions done by them, otherwise the morons might think we are appreciating their work..
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prakgc
12-18 03:03 PM
Dingundi,
I am in same situation who has sept 10th ND from TSC , no FP for me or my wife. I did open a SR and i got a response letter saying that either your FP has expired or clearance has not been received.. will send one by mail soon.
It has already been 45 days since the letter was dated. NO FP nothing.
Has going to IO helped anybody is getting a FP notice? That seems my last resort.
No update from my side. I had called last week and week before that. Apparently I got the same IO the last two times and first time she told me no FP scheduled , security check cleared. Second time she said no FP scheduled and I asked about security check and she said its still pending. Imagine same IO giving inconsistent information regarding my security check. I am not even sure to believe anything they say anymore. I am not even sure if they really look it up or not.
I am in same situation who has sept 10th ND from TSC , no FP for me or my wife. I did open a SR and i got a response letter saying that either your FP has expired or clearance has not been received.. will send one by mail soon.
It has already been 45 days since the letter was dated. NO FP nothing.
Has going to IO helped anybody is getting a FP notice? That seems my last resort.
No update from my side. I had called last week and week before that. Apparently I got the same IO the last two times and first time she told me no FP scheduled , security check cleared. Second time she said no FP scheduled and I asked about security check and she said its still pending. Imagine same IO giving inconsistent information regarding my security check. I am not even sure to believe anything they say anymore. I am not even sure if they really look it up or not.
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abq_gc
08-18 02:39 PM
Thats is true, it is always about me. Want to make it now about "you" ? Then write to ombudsman.
good reply... these are the kind of people with LOW HANGING BALLS... or FRUIT... i guess
good reply... these are the kind of people with LOW HANGING BALLS... or FRUIT... i guess
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kshitijnt
05-10 12:37 AM
I can very well relate to your desperation and anger, but please don't react emotionally. The legal or technical fact remains that no-one guranteed us GC and truth of the matter is most of us said "No" when immigration officer asked " do you have plans to settle in State?" So their is no question of equitable treatment.
. No Sir, I can't say thier is conspiracy as I know of none. As of us doing favor? ... is completly wrong, we all knew what and why we are coming here for. Had we had better choice we would have opted for that. Let's be honest to ourselves.
That my friend is captilism and welcome to USA. No I am not going to accept, but I am also not going to wave my fist in air and cry in-justices.
I am sorry to sound rude and know you must be going thru a lot and this news made things worst for you, as they did for all of us. But lets also accept the truth and believe me, things will change .... they will, when? I don't know but they will. Just don't lose hope.
Until 2005 I did not want to settle here and hence I marked no on my visa application. After 2005, I changed my mind and we had applied twice (me and my spouse) and hence we marked yes on the question whether any immigrant application was filed on our behalf. No we did not lie there. And even if many people did, do you think those who come from Europe or visa free countries mark "yes" when they apply first time? So your point is moot there. Most people from visa free countries come here work here visa free and go back. They never even get asked a question. How come we get fingerprinted, photographed twice, interrogated twice and yet targeted when it comes to GC?
I am not against capitalism but I am against fighting injustice such as you dont get GC because you were born in India. And yes change will come but if we dont do anything we get nothing.
. No Sir, I can't say thier is conspiracy as I know of none. As of us doing favor? ... is completly wrong, we all knew what and why we are coming here for. Had we had better choice we would have opted for that. Let's be honest to ourselves.
That my friend is captilism and welcome to USA. No I am not going to accept, but I am also not going to wave my fist in air and cry in-justices.
I am sorry to sound rude and know you must be going thru a lot and this news made things worst for you, as they did for all of us. But lets also accept the truth and believe me, things will change .... they will, when? I don't know but they will. Just don't lose hope.
Until 2005 I did not want to settle here and hence I marked no on my visa application. After 2005, I changed my mind and we had applied twice (me and my spouse) and hence we marked yes on the question whether any immigrant application was filed on our behalf. No we did not lie there. And even if many people did, do you think those who come from Europe or visa free countries mark "yes" when they apply first time? So your point is moot there. Most people from visa free countries come here work here visa free and go back. They never even get asked a question. How come we get fingerprinted, photographed twice, interrogated twice and yet targeted when it comes to GC?
I am not against capitalism but I am against fighting injustice such as you dont get GC because you were born in India. And yes change will come but if we dont do anything we get nothing.
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11-17 09:12 PM
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jsb
03-10 01:55 PM
what makes you think i am sitting at home waiting for the gc?
my post was in response to Sayantan's post - go back and read what he said.
With "you" I meant all those in these forums. Main point is in the second paragraph.
my post was in response to Sayantan's post - go back and read what he said.
With "you" I meant all those in these forums. Main point is in the second paragraph.
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02-05 08:59 AM
Thanks to all who responsed.
I will be sending private msgs to those who have asked me to do so.
I will be sending private msgs to those who have asked me to do so.
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09-28 02:35 PM
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sledge_hammer
02-12 12:33 PM
I never claimed I'm going to refrain from going ballistic with words when insults are hurled at me! Maintaining high moral standards and bad language usage doesn't always have to be mutually exclusive. Your logic is waaaayyyyyy flawed if you think they are, my friend!
Coming to your point about F1 status, I can speak for myself that I did come to the US with the intention of going back. I was offered a job while I was still in school and I changed my mind only then. My statement earlier is not conveying my intentions clearly.
It is also true that if USCIS needed to enforce that students are requried to go back to their home country after school, then they should not issue a COS with the H-1B approval, forcing the student to re-enter.
Many of your posts are sensible but you use language which does not befit your self-imposed imaginary high standards. Anyways, the quoted statement itself shows moral contradictions and you have misrepresented your intentions when you went to the consulate. F1 is a non-immigrant visa with the underlying implication that you return to your home country. Please get off your high horse.
Coming to your point about F1 status, I can speak for myself that I did come to the US with the intention of going back. I was offered a job while I was still in school and I changed my mind only then. My statement earlier is not conveying my intentions clearly.
It is also true that if USCIS needed to enforce that students are requried to go back to their home country after school, then they should not issue a COS with the H-1B approval, forcing the student to re-enter.
Many of your posts are sensible but you use language which does not befit your self-imposed imaginary high standards. Anyways, the quoted statement itself shows moral contradictions and you have misrepresented your intentions when you went to the consulate. F1 is a non-immigrant visa with the underlying implication that you return to your home country. Please get off your high horse.
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shantak
03-18 11:07 AM
I got same exact response as you regarding 60 days wait - only difference is my name check is still pending. Personally, I don't trust this any more until I get it...
Apahilaj,
Any update on your FP. Im still waiting for mine. I dont know how many are like us.
As you said my only concern is will it impact EAD renewal in any way?
People, please throw in some comments who have not received their FP yet
Apahilaj,
Any update on your FP. Im still waiting for mine. I dont know how many are like us.
As you said my only concern is will it impact EAD renewal in any way?
People, please throw in some comments who have not received their FP yet
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samrat_bhargava_vihari
06-18 08:53 AM
I am waiting ..
I am waiting.. and few more friends none of us got receipt. our checks got cashed on last Monday.
I am waiting.. and few more friends none of us got receipt. our checks got cashed on last Monday.
gsc999
07-07 12:07 AM
Why not in DC... IF we really plan then we can do this in DC.. ? may be next weekend?
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It would be great if we can coordinate nationally, that way we can synergize our efforts.
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It would be great if we can coordinate nationally, that way we can synergize our efforts.
man-woman-and-gc
09-13 11:20 PM
Yes.
We have thousands here. We take just 1000 people and if everyone contributes 100 dollars - its 100,000 dollars. Just an estimate for lawyer fees incase we get that far
We are from BHARAT. Its a loaded statement. WE dont lose.
TOGETHER WE STAND, TOGETHER WE STAND my brothers and sisters.
It sounds easy..but funding drives are not always easy when reality strikes...how about starting a spreadsheet with names and ph# of people who are willing to contribute $100 for this lawsuit. As soon as we have the 1000th name, we start depositing money to a bank account. 100 grand is not small amount and I am sure we can find a good enough lawyer to start a lawsuit for that kind of money.
I and my wife are ready with our 100 bucks each.....and can help with maintaing the spreadsheet etc.... how do we get those 1000 names now....or do we even have support of 1000 people around here...that is the biggest question.
We have thousands here. We take just 1000 people and if everyone contributes 100 dollars - its 100,000 dollars. Just an estimate for lawyer fees incase we get that far
We are from BHARAT. Its a loaded statement. WE dont lose.
TOGETHER WE STAND, TOGETHER WE STAND my brothers and sisters.
It sounds easy..but funding drives are not always easy when reality strikes...how about starting a spreadsheet with names and ph# of people who are willing to contribute $100 for this lawsuit. As soon as we have the 1000th name, we start depositing money to a bank account. 100 grand is not small amount and I am sure we can find a good enough lawyer to start a lawsuit for that kind of money.
I and my wife are ready with our 100 bucks each.....and can help with maintaing the spreadsheet etc.... how do we get those 1000 names now....or do we even have support of 1000 people around here...that is the biggest question.
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